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Saturday, May 23, 2009 6:15 PM
Big snow in Antarctica and a Challenge to the Big Wind

One of the Observatory staff who works in the valley office sent along some info last week about a series of severe storms that battered the research station at McMurdo in Antarctica. Fellow AccuWeather.com blogger Jesse Ferrel also briefly mentions it on his blog page in his Tumblr feed. In a nutshell, three different storms dropped over 6 feet of snow at the station and shattered all sorts of snowfall records and also brought some very windy conditions.

Very impressive, especially for a place that normally doesn't see a lot of snowfall, but how does this have anything to do with Mount Washington? Well, during one of these storms, an anemometer out on Black Island recorded a wind gust of 211 mph, just 20 mph short of the world record wind gust of 231 mph recorded here on Mount Washington back in 1934.

The article I read about this event gives no details about what type of anemometer measured this gust or whether it is a manned or unmanned station. I suspect that it is an unmanned remote station with either a cup or propeller anemometer. Either way, the likelihood that a device like that is calibrated for wind speeds much above 150 mph is not likely. Also, the article mentions that maximum sustained winds of 114 mph were recorded, presumably at the time of the gust although again no details are given. If this is the case, a wind gust almost 100 mph over the sustained wind speed is simply not likely.

Am I skeptical? Absolutely.

I will be doing some digging and keeping my eyes out for more official documentation on this event. I certainly hope some sort of investigation or verification is done at some point.

Just in case you didn't catch the link within the entry to the original article I read about these storms, here it is.


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Posted by Brian Clark on Saturday, May 23, 2009 6:15 PM
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Ryan Mayes:

Andrew,

Please stop polarizing the Global Warming issue!

Posted by Ryan Mayes | June 5, 2009 4:55 PM

Andrew:

I hope that there is not a hint that "global warming" is contributing to this here. There are some folks that are claiming that "man-made climate change" is causing increased precipitation in the antarctic which is causing glaciers to grow. There are some of us who simply want to study and discuss meteorology without politics and I am among those people. Aside from that, I wonder how this string of storms will affect weather events around the world in coming weeks and months. While not in the jetstream, passing storms can tap into the strong jetstream winds and bring those winds closer to the surface, correct?

From Brian: First of all, I am not sure where you would have gotten the idea that there is even a single hint to contributing these storms to climate change. Not once do I even come close to trying to explain the origins of these storms in any way shape or form. I simply presented facts.

Secondly, I can say with an extremely high degree of confidence that these storms will have absolutely no effect on the weather events around the world in the coming weeks and months. That's just simply not how our atmosphere works.

Lastly, I think you may be a little confused about the whole jet stream thing. In one of the previous comments, the reader was mentioning that Mount Washington's is located in the jet stream and this is one of the causes of the extreme weather on the mountain. I was simply correcting that reader and making sure it is clear that Mount Washington is not even close to being located within the jetstream. At the same time, your statement about storms being able to tap into strong jetstream winds is a correct one.

Posted by Andrew | May 26, 2009 4:29 PM

Greg:

My first initial thought was a major research station can't be accommodated with some high caliber equipment? However I must admit I'm ignorant about measuring wind speed.
There has to be another way than using a mechanical anemometers to measure wind. Since wind is pressure and force, is there some kind if equipment available which is able to take the pressure off the surface of of an instrument in which a fix fluid responds by changing its elevation. Something like a barometer but calibrated for wind.
If I have an invention, please include me on the patent.

From Brian: Interestingly enough, you have just done a pretty good job at describing the anemometer that we use on Mount Washington. It utilizes a pitot tube, just like you would find on a aircraft. It is not a commercially available instrument though. We custom designed the instrument and the rest of the system for our own use in the 1940's. As far as we know, no one else uses a pitot tube to measure the wind, in the field, anywhere else in the world.

I have written a couple entries about the Pitot Anemometer:

Pitot Anemometer, Part 1

Pitot Anemometer, Part 2

Posted by Greg | May 24, 2009 5:44 PM

Kevin:

Hey there Brian. I dont believe that the measurement is accurate. Honestly i dont think there will ever be a wind as high as the one recorded on Mount Washington ever, well observed anyway. I think its very notable that because of where Mount Washington lies within the jetstream that your fiercest winds and bad weather occur.
I have been up to Mount Washington many times and when i go up there i am always awe struck by the mountain and its unpredictable weather. Keep the information coming as i am a big weather enthusiast. have a good one.
Kevin

From Brian: I would tend to agree with you. The biggest problem, I think, is that most places just don't have anemometers in place to measure a wind in excess of 231 mph. Back in 1934, we did here on Mount Washington and still do today. It's just overkill (and unecessarily expensive!) for most places to have anemometers to measure those kinds of winds because they don't see them often enough. I think if and when the record does get broken, it will be when someone sucessfully measures the winds inside a tornado with an anemometer.

Just to clear something up, Mount Washington is not actually inside the jetstream. At just below 6,300 feet above sea level, we aren't even close. The jetstream is typically at 30,000 to 40,000 feet in the air. We do however lie in a region that sees several major storm tracks converge. Of course, these storms tracks are often dictated by the jetstream.

Also, thanks for your kind words. It's always good to hear when someone appreciates what I do!

Posted by Kevin | May 24, 2009 12:31 PM

Greg:

On can assume that the research station at McMurdo does not research wind? Do you think their thermometers are calibrated?

From Brian: I have no doubt that a major research station such as McMurdo has properly calibrated instruments within the ranges that those instruments are designed to measure.

The problem is that very few commercially available anemometers are designed or calibrated to measure winds greater than 200 mph. Now that does not mean that the device they have cannot measure a wind that high, it just means that a certain correction may have to be applied. That correction could be significant, especially if the 211 mph measured gust is significantly out of the range the device was designed to measure. This is one of the big reasons that we use a custom designed anemometer here on Mount Washington.

Posted by Greg | May 24, 2009 7:36 AM

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