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UPDATE (9 PM): Gustav is looking a little better on satellite now and TWC is talking that it may hit as a major Category 3, because NOAA's hurricane hunters have reported dropping pressure. Tonight, keep an eye on PSTL1, a coastal station on the southeasternmost Louisiana [Google Map]... they are getting the outer rainbands now and are gusting to 54 knots (LIVE GRAPH).
UPDATE (7 PM): The only observation anywhere close to the storm this afternoon was from a ship considerably to the Northeast of the storm which reported 36-foot waves and sustained winds of 78 mph (NDBC). Buoy #42003 which I quoted this morning made it to 78 mph with 34.4 foot waves before disappearing from the scope - it probably became adrift, which it has had a habit of doing this year. Here's a regional shot from AccuWeather.com RadarPlus showing wind (arrows), pressure (colors), satellite and radar at 7 PM:
Interesting Comments From The Media:
1. 1.9 million people have left Louisiana, according to estimates. Less than 10,000 people remain in New Orleans (Governor via FoxNews).
2. A military spokesman on CNN pointed out that if people would text-message, rather than calling, on their cell phones today, the cell phone system would be more likely to not die due to traffic. This is an interesting technological development I hadn't thought of.
3. A levee spokesperson on Fox News said that the Category of the storm surge is irrelevant when it comes to storm surge and that Katrina, a Cat 3 at landfall, produced a Cat 5 storm surge. I am mystified by this comment since the Saffir Simpson storm surge scale is clear. What he should have pointed out was that the direction of the storm surge at landfall is what is most important. The government has a storm surge model which predicts it; the probability of a 4-foot storm surge is shown below - you can see 8 foot here. This AccuWeather forecast indicates a 10-18 foot surge may occur in southeastern most Louisiana. AT THIS TIME the government map below would indicate that storm surges of over 8 feet only have a 20-30% probability of happening in New Orleans. But, it will only take one levee break to flood the city like during Katrina.
ORIGINAL POST:
We said in a press release this afternoon something that I was tempted to say this morning: Hurricane Gustav's time to turn into a monster like Katrina is over. The storm is disorganized with no eye, and may not even be the Category 3 strength that the last NHC bulletin claims.

UPDATE: I've tagged all my old Hurricane Katrina posts in "Categories" to your right, if you're interested in taking a trip down memory lane for that historic storm.
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Why then all the media hype of Gustav being a Cat 5 right now? The problem was, we meteorologists were hoping for a "biblical" storm and were looking only at sea-surface temperatures, which is only part of the equation. We either ignored, or didn't see coming, the affects of an upper-level trough/low to the west which not only directed Gustav on his present path, but kept him from strengthening today. AccuWeather.com Senior Expert Meteorologist Dan Kottlowski said in an interview,
"Gustav lost some energy as it moved over Cuba for six hours. Now an upper level feature has developed which is creating a southwest wind flow high in the atmosphere. This southwest sheer is causing the hurricane to tilt slightly to the northeast -- if you've ever put your finger on a spinning top, and watched it start to get slower and wobble erratically, you can imagine how the asymmetrics of the storm are causing it to lose intensity."
That said, there are three important things to state:
1. The storm is still near the strength that Katrina was at landfall and will still cause considerable damage.
2. The levee system in New Orleans may still fail due to the different approach angle of this storm, or because they weren't strong enough for a Cat 3 storm
3. A much-better-prepared coast has evacuated better and less lives will be lost because of it.
4. The storm will slow down after landfall, creating extensive, perhaps historic flooding where rain will be measured in feet.
Below is the current prediction from the GFS Forecast Model [JessePedia] for rainfall over the next week. Black areas indicate over a foot.

Much like Fay, we will likely see amounts in excess of that, probably over 20 inches, possibly three feet as we did with Tropical Storm Allison in 2001. I will never forget putting this graphic on the AccuWeather.com Headlines:

Here's an eerie photo of downtown New Orleans last night - in stark contrast to Hurricane Katrina, when the bars were filled with people - and the media.

Police patrolled the streets in the French Quarter of New Orleans, Saturday, Aug. 30, 2008. A million people took to Gulf Coast highways Saturday, boarding up homes and businesses and fleeing dangerous Hurricane Gustav by bus and automobile as the season's most powerful Atlantic storm took aim at Louisiana. (AP Photo/Rob Carr)
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Size matters - from the NHC Katrina TCR (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/TCR-AL122005_Katrina.pdf):
"Overall, Katrina’s very high storm surge is attributable mainly to the large horizontal size of the hurricane, with the total water level being further increased by waves, including those generated the previous day when Katrina was at Category 5 strength."
Posted by Z. Boosh | September 1, 2008 4:24 PM
THANK YOU - For the honest information and forecast reviews. People dont need BS when it comes to the safety of their families and friends. We expecially dont need politics in our weather system, its in enough of the news already.
Never give in, just give it straight.
Excellent work
Posted by Scott D | September 1, 2008 1:00 PM
Sorry Jesse, but just because the NHC describes the average storm surge expected for a given category on the scale does not mean that that category is defined by that storm surge, any more than it's defined by the amount and type of damage that's done. It's defined strictly by the wind speed ("Wind speed is the determining factor in the scale")
FROM JESSE: That's true, perhaps they should remove the other info from the SS scale definition.
Posted by Tom Pollard | September 1, 2008 8:54 AM
3. A levee spokesperson on Fox News said that the Category of the storm surge is irrelevant when it comes to storm surge and that Katrina, a Cat 3 at landfall, produced a Cat 5 storm surge. I am mystified by this comment since the Saffir Simpson storm surge scale is clear.
Saffir-Simpson classifies storms by wind speed, not storm surge. The standard surge expected of a storm of a given magnitude is based on assumptions about a typical storm's size (diameter) and speed. A large, slow-moving hurricaine will produce a greater surge than normal because the winds act on a larger expanse of water and for a longer time. Katrina was unusually large storm, which caused her to produce a greater surge than you'd expect from the typical cat 3 hurricaine that the levees were supposedly designed to handle. That's what they're talkiing about.
FROM JESSE: According to the NHC, The SS scale is defined by certain storm surges.
Posted by Tom Pollard | August 31, 2008 11:15 PM
Hi, Best not to underestimate mother nature...I live in North Queensland, Australia...we get hit hard quite regularly by tropical storms/cyclones/hurricanes... whether it is "hype" or not doesn't really matter does it ?? Just as long as the people are safe...and the safest place is in North Queensland at the moment..!...anyway, good luck to all..
Posted by Alex | August 31, 2008 10:19 PM
Jesse,
This morning at 2:30am, I was listening to wrno.com radio and they mentioned Alabama was diverting all LA evacuees off exit 69 and onto hwy 63, and not letting them continue on I 10. Wouldnt that cause a bottleneck if the interstate system was off limits to traffic flowing from LA? It said it would take them up to Mississippi. Here in Pensacola, we had (have) shelters set up for those folks (see pensacolanewsjournal.com) and hotel rooms were available. Any info on why Alabama did that, and was it just PART of the interstate? That seems criminal to bottleneck up the evacuees if this is true!
FROM JESSE: I'm not sure if this is the same thing, but I heard about a backup due to a bottleneck in the Mobile Tunnel. People were temporarily diverted around another way and all was well.
Posted by Cathie L | August 31, 2008 10:11 PM
Jesse, At 7 p.m. they included High Island, TX in the Hurricane Warning. What are your thoughts on this turning to the west. I'm in Houston and a touch nervous since this storm has a history of doing some crazy moves.
FROM JESSE: According to the NHC, there have been no adjustments of the warnings since 1 PM.
Posted by Joanne | August 31, 2008 10:06 PM
As usual Jessie, I thought the major media converage on a hurricane was off. All day today folks kept talking about Gustav like it was Katrina, but it's obviously not.
However, despite the lower strength than forecast today, I noticed on the last few loops of satelite images that an eye appears to be trying to reform in the CDO, which is trying to become more symmetrical, yet no one is talking about these changes.
Am I seeing things that aren't there?
FROM JESSE: Looks a little better now, yes.
Posted by pete | August 31, 2008 8:04 PM
Wait, from what I understand, the storm surge from Katrina was so high precisely because it was a very large category 5 before it hit New Orleans. While the angle of the storm and the orientation of the coast certainly did play a factor, the category 5-level storm surge continued ahead of the storm even as it weakened. So while it made landfall as a category 3, it still had category 5-level storm surges associated with it, on top of the angle and orientation of the coastline. This is why Katrina had a higher storm surge than that of Camille, even though Camille was a stronger storm. Camille was smaller and was not a category 5 way out at sea, so it didn't have as much time for the storm surge to ramp up before landfall.
At least that's how I have understood it from what the NHC has stated and other various reports on the storm.
Posted by Jason | August 31, 2008 6:47 PM